{"id":1859,"date":"2021-07-09T22:31:32","date_gmt":"2021-07-09T22:31:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/?page_id=1859"},"modified":"2025-09-14T15:19:01","modified_gmt":"2025-09-14T15:19:01","slug":"trevocon-1000_bangs","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/trevocon-1000_bangs\/","title":{"rendered":"TrevoCon-1000_Bangs"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t
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Overview<\/h2>\r\n

Part of the\u00a0TrevoCon series<\/strong> – Control (disambiguation)<\/em><\/p>\r\n

TrevoCon-1000_Bangs<\/strong><\/em> is a Max for Live plugin for testing CPU load of various Max and Max for Live objects. What’s more efficient, a Max “button<\/strong><\/em>“, Max “number<\/strong><\/em>“, Max “led<\/strong><\/em>“, Max “trigger bang<\/strong><\/em>” or Max for Live “numbox<\/strong><\/em>“. Use my “TrevoCon-1000_Bangs.amxd<\/strong><\/em>” MIDI effect to test your system.<\/p>\r\n

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History<\/h2>\r\n

In March of 2016, as the “Made Audible<\/strong><\/em>” duo, Jeff Kaiser and I traveled to Amsterdam to research sonification possibilities at STEIM. I worked on sonification of real data sets while Jeff developed his “Kaigen<\/a><\/strong><\/em>” probability generative tools (years before Ableton assembled their “Probability Pack”, BTW). Jeff was adamant about using “t b” over any CPU hungry GUI objects (such as buttons). I took this as gospel and changed my workflow to incorporate “t b”, “t b b”, “t b b i b b”, etc.\u00a0<\/p>\r\n

After 5-years (and some CPU and timing issues), I figured it was time to quantitatively test and compare. There is plenty of vague “max msp cpu” discussion out there, but little is quantified. TrevoCon-1000_Bangs <\/strong><\/em>sends an adjustable clock to floating pop-up windows that each hold 1000 cascaded objects. I tested it with Ableton Live 11.02 using a 2020 13-inch, M1 Macbook Pro (after a recent reboot; with no other applications running). Shockingly, the “button” object performs slightly better than the “trigger bang”.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\r\n

Not-so-shocking, the live.numbox performs horribly (even when it’s “Parameter Visibility” is set to “Hidden”).<\/p>\r\n

The bottom line for my tests – if you have CPU issues, replace your live.numbox objects with Max number objects.\u00a0<\/p>\r\n

Also, check out Jeff Kaiser’s “KaiGen \u2014 Interactive and Generative Software<\/a>” (the earliest and best probability tools in Max for Live).<\/p>\r\n

Download<\/h2>\r\n

Download the Max for Live patch – TrevoCon-1000_Bangs.amxd.zip<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\r\n

Results<\/h2>\r\n

Using a clock time of 5 ms:<\/p>\r\n

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  • Max Buttons<\/strong> – 8% CPU load<\/li>\r\n\t
  • Max Numbers<\/strong> – 12% CPU load<\/li>\r\n\t
  • Max LEDs<\/strong> – 8% CPU load<\/li>\r\n\t
  • Trigger Bangs<\/strong> – 9% CPU load<\/li>\r\n\t
  • Live.numbox<\/strong> – 784% CPU load<\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n

    v. .96 adds Max and Live Dials – as you would expect the Max Dial is only slightly less efficient than the Max number and the Live dial causes the Macbook to burst info flames.<\/em><\/p>\r\n

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    Overview Part of the\u00a0TrevoCon series – Control (disambiguation) TrevoCon-1000_Bangs is a Max for Live plugin for testing CPU load of various Max and Max for Live objects. What’s more efficient, a Max “button“, Max “number“, Max “led“, Max “trigger bang” or Max for Live “numbox“. Use my “TrevoCon-1000_Bangs.amxd” MIDI effect to test your system. History […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-1859","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1859","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1859"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1859\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2329,"href":"https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1859\/revisions\/2329"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1859"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}