{"id":1349,"date":"2019-07-31T18:29:26","date_gmt":"2019-07-31T18:29:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/?page_id=1349"},"modified":"2025-09-14T15:01:13","modified_gmt":"2025-09-14T15:01:13","slug":"trevocon-m802","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/patches-and-projects\/trevocon-m802\/","title":{"rendered":"TrevoCon-m802"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-page\" data-elementor-id=\"1349\" class=\"elementor elementor-1349\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1748fe75 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"1748fe75\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-29ed4d4a elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"29ed4d4a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\r\n<h2>Overview<\/h2>\r\n<p><strong>Part of the\u00a0TrevoCon series<\/strong> &#8211; <em>Control (disambiguation)<\/em><\/p>\r\n<p>TrevoCon-m802 is a Max for Live plugin and standalone Max 7 application for the control of Grace model m802 pre amps. The TrevoCon-m802.amxd M4L plugin runs inside of Ableton Live with optional control from the Push 1 or 2. Use one Ableton Live MIDI track with one TrevoCon-m802 to control each pre amp. Control as many amps as your MIDI setup will allow.<\/p>\r\n<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-1374 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/TrevoCon-m802_Ableton_v96-1024x730.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"730\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/TrevoCon-m802_Ableton_v96-1024x730.png 1024w, https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/TrevoCon-m802_Ableton_v96-500x357.png 500w, https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/TrevoCon-m802_Ableton_v96-768x548.png 768w, https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/TrevoCon-m802_Ableton_v96.png 1029w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/p>\r\n<p>The standalone TrevorCon-m802.app is setup to control 3 pre amps that listen on MIDI channels 1,2 and 3 (using an MIDI interface of your choosing).<\/p>\r\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-1373 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/TrevoCon-m802_App_v96.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1012\" height=\"699\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/TrevoCon-m802_App_v96.png 1012w, https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/TrevoCon-m802_App_v96-500x345.png 500w, https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/TrevoCon-m802_App_v96-768x530.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1012px) 100vw, 1012px\" \/><\/p>\r\n<h2>MIDI Implementation<\/h2>\r\n<p>The Grace m802 uses the same MIDI implementation as the Digidesign pre amps (<a href=\"http:\/\/akmedia.AVID%20.com\/support\/docs\/PRE_Guide_v80_56123.pdf\">http:\/\/akmedia.AVID .com\/support\/docs\/PRE_Guide_v80_56123.pdf<\/a>). Note that the m802 requires a MIDI heartbeat. TrevoCon-m802 provides this every 5 seconds. The main difference between the M4L plugin and the Max patch (and application) is in the MIDI i\/o implementation. The M4L plugin uses ctlin and cltout and the Max patch uses midiin and midiout (with midiformat). Because of the Max patch&#8217;s need to send channel information, the reset system is a bit more complicated (and includes a delay sequence). Other than that, the M4L and Max patches are about the same.<\/p>\r\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-1353\" src=\"https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Grace_M802_MIDI.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"426\" height=\"177\" \/><\/p>\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n<h2>Downloads<\/h2>\r\n<ul>\r\n\t<li>Just the Max for Live plugin &#8211; \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Trevo-Con-M802.amxd.zip\">Trevo-Con-M802.amxd.zip<\/a><\/li>\r\n\t<li>Ableton Live 10 Project with 3 instances of TrevoCon-m802 &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/TrevoCon-M802-Project.zip\">TrevoCon-M802 Project.zip<\/a><\/li>\r\n\t<li>OS X Standalone Application v.97 (Catalina, Big Sur, Monterey, and later) &#8211; <a href=\"\/a\/wp6\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/TrevoCon-M802_v97.zip\">TrevoCon-M802_v97_app.zip<\/a><\/li>\r\n\t<li>OS X Standalone Application (Mojave and earlier) &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/TrevoCon-M802_v96_app.zip\">TrevoCon-M802_v96_app.zip<\/a><\/li>\r\n\t<li>Max 7 Patch (used to build the Standalone) &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/TrevoCon-M802_v96_maxpat.zip\">TrevoCon-M802_v96_maxpat.zip<\/a><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<h2>Installation:<\/h2>\r\n<p>No externals are required to run this plugin. Place the TrevoCon-m802 plugin on a MIDI track and assign the MIDI input and output.<\/p>\r\n<h2>Usage:<\/h2>\r\n<p>TrevorCon-m802 controls one m802 pre amp.<\/p>\r\n<ul>\r\n\t<li><strong>Gain:<\/strong> Use the Sliders to adjust the gain. Note that the m802 has gain stages. The stages are shown below the plugin faders with conversion to dB.<\/li>\r\n\t<li><strong>48V<\/strong> &#8211; Enable and disable 48V.\u00a0<\/li>\r\n\t<li><strong>Phase<\/strong> &#8211; Flip the phase of any channel<\/li>\r\n\t<li>Ribbon &#8211; Enable ribbon mic mode. This disables 48V and adds 10dB to the gain.<\/li>\r\n\t<li><strong>Reset<\/strong> &#8211; Reset the Gain to stage 4 (i.e. 12dB). Turn off 48V and ribbon.<\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<p>In the M4L version, as long as the Ableton Live channel is record-enabled, it will receive MIDI. So, changes to the m802 will change settings on the Plugin.<\/p>\r\n<p>TrevoCon-m802 is set to retain Ableton Live settings. When the Project is loaded, settings saved with the plugin will be sent to the m802 pre amp.<\/p>\r\n<p><strong>Thanks to T. Erbe for the usage suggestions and MIDI spec.<\/strong><\/p>\r\n<p><em>View more patches in the <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/trevor.ucsd.edu\/a\/wp6\/patches-and-projects\">TrevoCon series<\/a><\/strong>&#8230;<\/em><\/p>\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Overview Part of the\u00a0TrevoCon series &#8211; Control (disambiguation) TrevoCon-m802 is a Max for Live plugin and standalone Max 7 application for the control of Grace model m802 pre amps. The TrevoCon-m802.amxd M4L plugin runs inside of Ableton Live with optional control from the Push 1 or 2. 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